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Adbrite VS. Adsense

May 31st, 2008 | 4 Comments | Posted in Advertising Networks, Worthless, comic tips

Ok, so I started out Vital Pixel using adsense, and of course when there was no revenue. Days after the opening of vitalpixel, the site started to get tremendous traffic. The blog was getting thousands of hits/pageviews per day thanks to social networking, and some other methods. Tremendous in relative terms… since it was days later that it started to receive thousands of hits, I deem it tremendous. Despite the tremendous amount of traffic, the money stayed near the same. The highest point using google adsense, was a remarkable $5 on one day, with a not so remarkable twist. The $5 was split between a large sum of 297 clicks.

So, after wondering whether or not I had been click bombed, in which case google probably wouldn’t have counted a large amount of those 297 clicks.  I decided that maybe, google was really only paying me an average of 1.5 cents a click.  Which totally sucks if you know what I’m saying.  In my dream world, that many clicks would’ve made me at least $100 dollars.  So, feeling that I had been royally jipped, I decided to venture out into the world of ad network limbo.  Reading guides on blogs other than my own, trying to decide which pay per click network I would use.

I came to the decision that I would try adbrite, which I had used before on my arcade website a couple years back.  I’m so impatient that I only managed to force myself into leaving the ads on Vital Pixel for a couple of days.  There were so many things I could say about adbrite that were good, it’s might be hard for some to realize why I took their ads down.

  1. First, adbrite counted ad impressions much faster than adsense, and it seemed a lot more accurate.  I’m not sure if me saying that really has any meaning, since I can hardly read the statistics in my cpanel.
  2. They offered page ads, so I could make money with a popup like advertising, that wasn’t really a popup. (yay?)
  3. They included inline ads, so I didn’t need to use any other company like kontera.
  4. I could make extra money from people that payed specifically to advertise on my website.

Oh, but then… every one of these positive features of adbrite had a downside.  Each downside greatly outweighing the positive.

  1. They counted ad impressions accurately, I guess, but when do i get even a single cent?
  2. Page ads, oh pl0x (leet speak for please).  My browser froze 3 times when I came to my site because it was having a problem loading one of these page ads.  Plus, if every visitor that came to my site got one of these page ads, then I probably should’ve made more than 3 cents.  Since there were over 900 pageviews by that time.
  3. The inline ads fail compared to kontera, they’re all stuck bunched up at the top of the blog content.  Where as, kontera spreads the links throughout the page, and allows you to blend them in a bit more with regular links.  Plus, google allows you to use the context links of kontera since they can’t get confused with the look of their own ads.
  4. I doubt anyone would pay to advertise on my website at this point in time, with all of the negative posts about how the site was doing financially.  Though I should probably be happy with the profits I’m making.  Which means I’m perfectly fitting the role of the spoiled american, that always wants more.  Who shouldn’t always want more though, and isn’t it the instinct of any human being to want what they can’t have?  Especially if that thing you can’t have, seems to be just barely beyond your reach.

So no, I did not prefer adbrite over adsense, and this has happened to me before.  All the other sites that I decided to use other advertising networks on, I was severely disappointed.  Being to stupid to learn from my mistakes in the past, I’m hoping this will be the last time.  who knows how many $.001 I could’ve made when I removed google as my advertiser?

As you can see, adsense has been reinstated, and adbrite has been shunned by me forever, or until I forget what’s wrong with it again.

The comic:

Adbrite Vs Adsense

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Conflicting Google Clicks

May 30th, 2008 | 1 Comment | Posted in Advertising Networks

I’m pretty skeptical of my adsense clicks right now, seeing as I’ve got different programs telling me I got different amounts of clicks.  So, I’m going to experiment with a couple of other Pay Per Click advertisement companies and see how things work out.  Another thing thought brought me to seeing the downside of google is how much money i was getting per click.  The other day, I had 297 clicks, and made only $5.39… so the 1 and a half cents just isn’t really worth it for me.

I know I said I might have been being click bombed, and that still stands.  I’m definitely going to be trying something new though.

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Pay Per Click is Not the Answer

May 27th, 2008 | 1 Comment | Posted in Advertising Networks

An old snail explains to a young monkey the realities of online advertising.  Sure companies with large budgets could get some good out of PPC ads, but there are other ways to get big.  For absolutely no money at all.

I decided to let the comic do most of the talking this time. So it’s a bit longer than usually, I could go on to elaborate on the old snails wise words, but there are other posts on the blog that do that. So do what he says and use the search feature :).

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Porn Sites Are Saturated

May 25th, 2008 | 4 Comments | Posted in Advertising Networks, Hints and Tips

I always read things in the digitalpoint sales forum where webmasters of adult websites seem to be very profitable. The truth is, it’s not as easy/turnkey as it seems to make an adult site profitable. It takes a lot of time, dedication, and startup funds to make an adult site that profits. Barefootsies writes great information on adult websites, and he has the experience to back it up.

You can still make a lot of easy money in adult, but many R-E-F-U-S-E to think outside the box. Clips4sale as an example is a gold mine for a thousand plus dollars a month depending on your content, number of stores, niche, and many refuse to pursue it. Or they try it for a month, and give up.

I have launched many paysites off of c4s. Posting content every few days with a watermark for the site, and in 45-60 days launching a paysite behind it. This builds up the momentum before launch, and you already have a customer base. Plus Neil (owner of c4s) buys a lot of traffic that he throws at the main page of the site on top of that. So it’s a very good place to start.

Even if you MAKE your own content, you should be able to recoup your expenses in 45-60 days if you are doing right. Then in another 45-60 you are making PROFIT. Launch your paysite, sell some DVD’s, now you are making even MORE money on residuals. Start doing some custom orders at $100-300 a pop for your mem

bers, and fans, and you have even more money coming in. Launch another, rinse, wash, repeat, and you are making $XXX,XXX in a few years.

That said, you also have to be willing to do the work. This means submitting galleries using a submitter program 4-7 times a week CONSISTENTLY. As well as link dumps, and link building. You have to be tweaking the formula every week to get a few more links for SEO, or traffic streams by submitting 30 second clips to tube sites. The job is never ending… just like ANY JOB.

Many fail because they refuse to treat it as a business. Online is no different than any other, and if you can’t buckle down and keep up the consistent work, you are going to fall into buying traffic. Which is a fool’s errand. Most of that shit is crap. Skimmed stuff, or unfiltered Chinese mess that will not convert.

CONVERSIONS is the name of the game, and getting GOOD FILTERED traffic is the key. If you can convert 1:100/300 uv a day. It’s better than burning your bandwidth trying to chase a 1:10000 conversion. Which many do, and burn their wallets out, and give up. I’ve seen it countless times over the years.

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Doing affiliate stuff is harder I agree. I have dumped most of mine, and just promote my own sister sites now, or sites that have a direct benefit in one way or another. However, with the shaves cranked up on a lot of programs because they are hurting, chasing that dollar is becoming hard in both adult and mainstream.

It’s about working smarter, not harder. Many blow their budgets on some of the most asinine things when all you have to do is spend the TIME and doing something DAILY. Submit a gallery, get some links, post a video, make some posts on message boards. There are a hundred ways to skin that dollar. But you have to be willing to work. Buying traffic, and not doing the little things that make big cents is not going to cut it.

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The Microsoft Ad Network

July 20th, 2007 | No Comments | Posted in Advertising Networks

Alright… so Microsoft does seem to be stepping up its online game lately doesn’t it?  Maybe it’s just me, but I’m pretty sure they’re getting bigger on the www :).

Everybody though Microsoft missed out on  the purchase of some ad network called 24/7 real media, which was then purchased by WPP or something for $649 million, no big deal right?  Microsoft had earlier attempted to purchase Doubleclick but Google beat them offering $3.1 billion dollars… I’m not sure what Microsoft had offered.

Then finally Microsoft made the biggest purchase in it’s history… They bought the 10 year old ad network aQuantive for about $6 million.

Well, hopefully that turns out well for Microsoft, although I doubt they will surpass Yahoo, or Google with their advertising program.

Advertising Methods worth the money and not… with reason

June 19th, 2007 | 4 Comments | Posted in Advertising Networks

Alright, I’m just going to list a bunch of methods of advertising that are worth the money, and aren’t worth the money… which is pretty much what the title tells you. Correct? Yes… let’s continue.

The Bad Methods:

  1. Myspace bulletins: never bring in any traffic… are you ever tempted to click those damn links?
  2. Traffic trade: nobody stays on your website, they do what you do and leave as soon as possible.
  3. Sticky Notes over toilets in public restrooms: Yea, no soliciting while I’m peeing k?
  4. Video Advertising: Could be good, could be bad… your going to need a pretty big following, and there has to be something on the video that people would want more of on your website!
  5. Purchasing Traffic: Most of the time it’s just a scam, or the same guy refreshing the page over and over again… yea it’s not worth it at all.
  6. Shirts: Minus the cost of the shirts… yea you get nothing. Unless you have some really good shirts at your website and you want people to come to it to buy shirts!

The Good Methods:

  1. Yahoo Groups: Submitting to Yahoo Groups seems to work a lot better than posting myspace bulletins, and get’s some nice conversion rates.
  2. Blog Reviews: Blog reviews are a bonus for traffic, and a nice backlink… well, depending on the blog your getting the review on. The higher the traffic + pr of that blog, the more valuable your link is on that blog.
  3. Advertising Forums: There are a few forums that are specifically for advertising your websites, these sites… and any other forums that have a section where you could showcase your website actually seem to work out nicely.
  4. Word of Mouth: Of course if you’ve got some friends, than by all means tell them about your sites… they may even be stoked that you made one and then just tell everyone about it!
  5. TV Advertising: Not sure how much this costs, but I know it would convert like crazy! Or even if it didn’t, you’d still rake in millions of visitors depending on how appealing the commercial was.
  6. Featured Directory Submissions: I haven’t had to much luck with this sort of thing at all, but I’ve heard about a lot of people having success with it.
  7. Digg.com: Digg, stumble, or any of those other social networking sites are great… you may even receive the digg affect, where your article get’s featured and you get overloaded with traffic!
  8. Article Submission: Getting articles out to many different sites is sure to get you some good backlinks, and some potential traffic… I’ve done it and it worked out for a while!

Well, that’s all for now, hopefully the list can help you guys out!

by,

the webjedis

Google Adsense or YPN?

June 7th, 2007 | 2 Comments | Posted in Advertising Networks

In case you don’t know… YPN is Yahoo Publisher’s Network… haha, I didn’t know what that meant when I first heard it, however self explanatory it may be. Nobody goes around saying GA or anything as an acronym for Google Adsense. Maybe if the world were built on acronyms instead of words we could all understand them better. It’s kind of like a chinese letter being worth more than just a letter, and about a whole sentence instead. Enough with the pointless rant on acronyms though… it’s not what this post is about. This post is about the controversy over whether or not you should go with the advertising company Google or YPN, by the way I could easily get back into the acronym thing so if I start too than stop me.

Alright, I guess I’ll do this in a list format about the upsides and downsides of adsense to ypn… or maybe a pie chart… no wordpress doesn’t allow that. I’m in a frenzy tongight, I’m here to help and I need to get this post over with. What shall I format this like? Ok, it will be just a simple comparison, a list of what one has/doesn’t have and the vice versa at the other advertising company.  I’ll try to make the list a little bit less frenzied than all the stuff I’ve been typing up here.

Google Adsense or YPN… the ongoing controversy of the Advertising Networks!

  • Acceptance Rates: YPN… in this early stage has not been accepting many sites at all!  In fact it has rejected two of my sites already… No Games Allowed and Reaching pr10 directory.  Google is a lot easier to get accepted for.
  • Pay Per Click: Well, here’s one score for YPN, and the biggest reason that people are using it instead of adsense.  YPN has a higher ppc, but it still all depends on the type of keywords your using, and people have been banned for, false keywords? Low Conversions?  Google is safer, but doesn’t pay out as much, a monarchy has to eat doesn’t it?!
  • Keyword Relevancy: Well, I have to say that YPN is way behind google on this aspect of the advertising company, and a lot of people have been complaining about it.

Well, that’s all I got right now guys, good luck!

by,

the webjedis

Google Adsense Alternatives

May 13th, 2007 | 2 Comments | Posted in Advertising Networks, Resources

If you’ve gotten banned from adsense, or any other advertising company and your looking for a new advertising company, here is a huge list of them! I’ve highlighted the ones I like the most. If you want to check out one of the sites just ‘google’ the name and you’ll get the url for it. I’ve heard quite a bit about alot of those advertising networks, but the bold ones especially… I suggest you check out the ones I’ve highlighted before the other ones as I know they can be trusted.

1. Google Adsense (of course)
2. 24/7 RealMedia
3. AdBrite
4. Advertising.com
5. Burst Media
6. Kanoodle
7. Link Share
8. ValueClick
9. Yahoo Publisher Network
10. Accelerator Media
11. Ad Agency 1
12. Ad Dynamix
13. AdEngage
14. Adgenta
15. Adhearus
16. AdKnowledge
17. AdPepper
18. ADServing Network
19. Adsmart
20. Adtegrity
21. AdZuba
22. Adversal
23. Affiliate Future
24. Affiliate Sensor
25. Affiliate Fuel
26. AllFeeds
27. Auction Ads
28. AV Nads
29. Azoogle Ads
30. Banner Boxes
31. Banner Connect
32. Bardzo Media
33. BClick
34. BidClix
35. BidVertiser
36. BlinkAds
37. BlueFN
38. BlogadNetwork
39. BlogAds
40. BlueLithium
41. Buy.at
42. Casale Media
43. Chitika
44. ClickAdsDirect
45. Click Booth
46. Click Share
47. Clicksor
48. Click Xchange
49. CrispAds
50. ContexWeb
51. Cyber Bounty
52. Cover Clicks
53. CPX Interactive
54. Direct Networks
55. Enhance Interactive
56. Esource Media
57. Etype-Europe
58. EtypeUSA
59. Etargetnet
60. ExpoActive
61. ExoClick
62. Fairadsnetwork
63. FastClick/ ValueClick
64. FluxAds
65. HurricaneDigitalMedia
66. Hyperbidder
67. Hydramedia
68. Incenta Click
69. Industry Brains
70. Interclick
71. JoeTec
72. LookSmart Adcenter
73. Kontera
74. LinkBLiss
75. Mamma Media Solutions
76. MSN adCenter
77. MaxBounty
78. Mirago
79. MIVA AdRevenue Xpress
80. MoreNiche
81. Nixxie
82. Oridian
83. Oxado
84. Paypopup
85. PayperPost
86. PeakClick
87. Popup Traffic
88. Quigo
89. RealCastMedia
90. RealTech Network
91. Revenue Pilot
92. ReviewMe
93. RightMedia
94. Searchfeed
95. ShareAShale
96. Sponsered Reviews
97. TargetPoint
98. Text Link Ads
99. TMP Express
100. Tremor Network
101. Tribal Fusion
102. Veoda
103. Vibrant Media IntelliTXT